Senate president Sue Lines hits out after Lidia Thorpe, Hollie Hughes incident

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The president of the Senate has issued a stern warning to senators Lidia Thorpe and Hollie Hughes after a heated racism row in the chamber earlier this week.

Firebrand independent senator Thorpe accused Senator Hughes of racism during a debate over the safeguard mechanism on Tuesday evening.

The matter was put to the side pending further investigation by Senate President Sue Lines, who issued a statement on Thursday afternoon demanding higher standards from all politicians in the Senate. 

‘It is unacceptable that senators continue to disregard the authority of the chair while points of order are raised and determined,’ she said.

‘I intend to take a firmer line in calling the chamber to order, particularly in question time.

‘In order to preserve the dignity of the chamber, I remind all senators of the behaviour codes and your endorsement of these codes in this chamber and the other place.’

Firebrand independent senator Thorpe accused senator Hughes of racism during a debate over the safeguard mechanism on Tuesday evening

Firebrand independent senator Thorpe accused senator Hughes of racism during a debate over the safeguard mechanism on Tuesday evening 

Ms Hughes muttered ‘how many times has that happened today?’ as Ms Thorpe acknowledged traditional custodians of the Beetaloo Basin in her speech. 

The comment was too faint to hear on playback footage, but was picked up on the official transcript and was clearly heard by Ms Thorpe, who was speaking on the opposite end of the chamber about the impact of climate change and colonisation.  

‘Is that racism? Can I just call out racism in this chamber right now, please?’ Senator Thorpe asked acting deputy president Linda Reynolds.

‘I am in my workplace, and I don’t need racists being racist while I’m reading my speech.

‘Can you make sure that I am not targeted with racism while I’m trying to do my job, please?’

Ms Hughes immediately hit back, jumping to her feet and pointing at Ms Thorpe as she said it was inappropriate ‘to be referring to anyone in this place as racist’.

Ms Hughes immediately hit back, jumping to her feet and pointing at Ms Thorpe as she said it was inappropriate 'to be referring to anyone in this place as racist'

Ms Hughes immediately hit back, jumping to her feet and pointing at Ms Thorpe as she said it was inappropriate 'to be referring to anyone in this place as racist'

Ms Hughes immediately hit back, jumping to her feet and pointing at Ms Thorpe as she said it was inappropriate ‘to be referring to anyone in this place as racist’ 

The clash descended into shouting and finger pointing as Ms Hughes continued to demand Ms Thorpe withdraw the ‘absolutely inappropriate’ comment.

Following a review of the incident, the senate president concluded Ms Thorpe asking whether an interjection was racist did not breach standing orders, but her later accusation did.

She was ordered to withdraw her comment.

Ms Lines ruled the chair at the time should have sought Ms Hughes to clarify or withdraw her initial interjection as Ms Thorpe found it ‘personally offensive’.

‘However, because of the subsequent disorder, that was not possible. In those circumstances, I think it would be appropriate for Senator Hughes to either withdraw or clarify her remarks,’ she added.

The Liberal senator promptly withdrew her comment ‘in order to maintaining dignity of the chamber’.

Ms Lines ruled the chair at the time (pictured) should have sought Ms Hughes to clarify or withdraw her initial interjection as Ms Thorpe found it 'personally offensive'

Ms Lines ruled the chair at the time (pictured) should have sought Ms Hughes to clarify or withdraw her initial interjection as Ms Thorpe found it 'personally offensive'

Ms Lines ruled the chair at the time (pictured) should have sought Ms Hughes to clarify or withdraw her initial interjection as Ms Thorpe found it ‘personally offensive’ 

Speaking to Sky News later on Wednesday evening, Ms Hughes said her claim was not racially motivated before firing back with her own accusation.

‘I’m getting fed up to the teeth with Lidia Thorpe referring to anyone who’s not Indigenous as a coloniser,’ Senator Hughes said.

‘I find that racist, I find it offensive.’

Ms Thorpe had been discussing the Safeguard Mechanism Amendment Bill and commending the Greens – her former party – on the concessions they won from Labor regarding coal and gas mining.

The safeguard mechanism, which was initiated by the coalition government but is being overhauled by Labor, will apply to the country's 215 biggest emitters and force them to reduce their emissions by 4.9 per cent each year

The safeguard mechanism, which was initiated by the coalition government but is being overhauled by Labor, will apply to the country's 215 biggest emitters and force them to reduce their emissions by 4.9 per cent each year

The safeguard mechanism, which was initiated by the coalition government but is being overhauled by Labor, will apply to the country’s 215 biggest emitters and force them to reduce their emissions by 4.9 per cent each year

She said: ‘Last week the IPCC sounded a final warning alarm on the climate crisis. This crisis began over 250 years ago in this country, with colonisation. Climate change and its root causes cannot be separated from colonisation. 

‘This land is our mother, and we are killing her. Every time a new coal pit is dug, she is wounded. With every new fracking well that is driven into her veins, she bleeds.’

Senator Thorpe noted First Nations people are hit ‘first and worst by the impacts of climate change’, yet have not benefitted from the industry.  

‘These are industries that have generated trillions of dollars of stolen wealth, all at the cost of polluting and killing our lands, our waters and our skies,’ she said.

‘We are in a climate crisis, though I would like to remind you all that the majority of First Nations people have been in crisis every day since colonisation, as we have been pushed off our land and forced to stand back and watch the colonial project destroy our lands and waters in the pursuit of extracting fossil fuels. For this reason there can be no climate justice without First Nations justice.’

READ: The entire exchange between Hollie Hughes and Lidia Thorpe 

Senator Thorpe: I want to acknowledge the traditional owners and custodians of the lands—

Senator Hughes: How many times has that happened today?

Senator Thorpe: Is that racism? Can I just call out racism in this chamber right now, please? Acting Deputy President, I call it out.

Senator Hughes: Point of order.

The Acting Deputy President (Senator Linda Reynolds): Point of order?

Senator Hughes: We’ve just had an accusation made in this chamber, and I would like Senator Thorpe to withdraw.

The Acting Deputy President: Senator Hughes, you have a point of order?

Senator Hughes: Yes. I’d just like to point out that Senator Thorpe has just made a comment about me that I think she should withdraw in its inference—in fact, its direct calling.

The Acting Deputy President: Senator Thorpe?

Senator Thorpe: Acting Deputy President, what are you asking me to do?

The Acting Deputy President: Senator Thorpe, I’ve just had a point of order that you actually made—

Senator Thorpe: Do you want me to finish reading it?

The Acting Deputy President: I did hear what Senator Hughes said, and—

Senator Thorpe: And you don’t see that as racist?

The Acting Deputy President: That is not my call to make. However—are you making a point of order?

Senator Thorpe: I’m making a point of order that I am in my workplace, and I don’t need racists being racist to me while I’m reading my speech. Can you make sure that I am not targeted with racism while I’m trying to do my job, please?

The Acting Deputy President: Senator Hughes?

Senator Hughes: I don’t think it’s appropriate for Senator Thorpe to be referring to anyone in this place as racist, and I would ask her to withdraw. That is absolutely inappropriate, and I will not be referred to by you as anything, let alone that. You need to—

The Acting Deputy President: Senator Hughes, take your seat. Senator Hughes, you are not helping. Senator Hughes and Senator Thorpe! Thank you. Senator Thorpe, I heard what Senator Hughes said, and I didn’t hear anything that was – 

Senator Thorpe, if you would like a review of the Hansard, I can certainly ask for a review of the Hansard.

Senator Thorpe: I would like that please, because I will not stand for racism in my workplace.

The Acting Deputy President: Senator Thorpe, you are not helping the situation by repeating that claim about Senator Hughes. I would ask that you withdraw that imputation.

Senator Thorpe: I will not withdraw until you understand that I have just been racially vilified while I’m reading my speech.

Senator Katy Gallagher: If it might assist the chamber, there is obviously a disagreement that has gone on here. I think your suggestion that the Hansard be reviewed and that the President or yourself come back to the chamber at a later date might be the best way to facilitate this evening.

Senator Hughes: I would just like to make the point that the constant reference to Australians who were born here from a different heritage being referred to as colonisers is not helpful in any way. Perhaps we need to refer to the Hansard in more ways than one.

The Acting Deputy President: Senator Hughes and Senator Thorpe: I will confer with the President, and also the Clerk. We will review the Hansard, and we will come back and report back to the Senate.

Senator Thorpe: Acting Deputy President, I appreciate that. Can I continue to read my speech?

The Acting Deputy President: You have the call.

Source: | This article originally belongs to Dailymail.co.uk

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